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Page Titles. This Wiki? has the problem (as ToothyWiki had until recently) that it has a long bit of fixed text on the front of all the page titles in the <title> tags, making it hard to tell which Browser-Tab or minimised icon belongs to which WikiPage?. -- Senji (ed Dan)

[shorttitle.diff] adds a pref which allows you to choose between long and short titles. [This version of the wiki] shows what it looks like (you'll have to enable the pref). Richard

I like this patch, but Dan wonders if swapping the order of the title and the identification string might be better. I don't use tabs, but I guess it displays the prefix of a long title. I would apply Richard's patch as is, but change it to "swap order". I think it'd be good if there was something in the title bar to identify a page as part of the wiki. For example, I use minimisation and a window list a lot, it'd be good to be able to spot things easily as wiki pages (though I might not be able to see the whole Manx sentence). Should I do this instead of the shortening (or perhaps as well as, though I'm a bit wary of adding complexity), or else I could just swap the ordering for everyone?

Mozilla and some other browsers can put a per-site, and even per-page, icon in the tab for a page; I don't know if this extends to window-manager window lists but it's a bug if they don't. Anyway that might be one good way of efficiently identifying windows or tabs which belong to the Wiki, assuming the feature is good enough and widespread enough. At least in Mozilla tabs it's free from a space point of view, because it puts a default icon in if there's nothing better. Richard

A favicon.ico? God yes, I remember those things, I had to do them for work, fiddly, :(. It seems like a solution in this case, though. I'll add a big switch (in some HCI-nice way) to preferences and just start adding options, I think. I think it's going to be difficult to satisfy everyone, and the options won't hurt. Perhaps a muddle of complexity that should be early plugginised?

favicon.ico was the first implementation, I believe, but <link rel=icon href=mumble> works in current Mozilla, and is obviously a better idea that than the per-site favicon.ico thing (for one thing it doesn't require you to convert sensible image formats to .ico format using not-really-working tools).

That's <link rel="shortcut icon" href="mumble"> , I think.

ISTR both working in certain browsers... :-(

Microsoft's page says the relationship should be "shortcut icon". Mozilla's release notes mention both. There was a page on mozilla.org which just gave rel=icon, but I can't find it again just now.

I've got a patch around somewhere to do this that has been running fine on ToothyWiki and YsoldeWiki? for some time now -- Senji



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